INDOCTRINATION MAFIA - BALTIC RIDGE THE SEQUEL FLAWED SETUP GAME OVER!

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Andy92 wrote:
Inconquerable wrote:One of our esteemed interrogators has decided to use their powers to call somebody out. So, Andy92, please reveal your role to the rest of the players.
Sure thing.

I’m the one that smokes blunts so I don’t really keep track of who becomes mafia but I do know who everyone’s role is currently! I can’t explicitly give anyone away but I know everything...everything.
Holy schnikes, what a find!
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Oh well. Deal with it.
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Go reread what zaz says

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Re: INDOCTRINATION MAFIA - BALTIC RIDGE THE SEQUEL DAY ONE STARTS NOW!

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I'm new, but having read a couple of the older games to figure out what's going on - am I right in saying that this one has escalated rather quickly?
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Well, this one's pretty different than the standard mafia.

And yeah, that's a good find. But he can still be converted, right? Which, obviously, makes him a prime target for Miles and Udon.

Edit: oh, my b, he can't be converted. So this is actually ez pz now -- all we gotta do is listen to what Andy says. Who do we excommunicate? :D
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Re: INDOCTRINATION MAFIA - BALTIC RIDGE THE SEQUEL DAY ONE STARTS NOW!

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I’ve been told I can’t explicitly say who is who, but I can also vote, so...Incon can I vote first? lol
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Andy92 wrote:I’ve been told I can’t explicitly say who is who, but I can also vote, so...Incon can I vote first? lol
You're gonna have to vote eventually...
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VOTE: zaz

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Re: Interesting choice!

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Andy92 wrote:I’ve been told I can’t explicitly say who is who, but I can also vote, so...Incon can I vote first? lol
Yep go ahead!

Also one vote for zazthesass apparently... =P
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VOTE: Ubik
anguyen92 wrote:Oh well. Deal with it.

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Re: This is probably why he doesn't play with us...

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Vote: Ubik :(
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WHOA. Andy. How could you?

I ask for a cease of further votes until I can mount a defence, as I believe Andy may have nefarious motives.
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Y'all gonna make Ubik never want to play Mafia again :lol

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Okay. Ladies, Gentlemen, AlterBlade. I present my case.

This hinges, clearly, on Andy's role. He is the Know It All, and as Lotha correctly (and suspiciously?) immediately pointed out earlier on, now that we KNOW he is the Know It All, all we need do is follow his word and the game's over. Right?

Wrong. Andy is no longer purely Andy, all round good-guy. He is now Schrodinger's Andy (see Fig 1, below).

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Fig 1: In native habitat

If Andy had remained unobserved, his role as Know It All would have remained pure. He would vote for Miles or Udon each day, provide some hints, and everyone would have a fun time. No need to dig himself into holes with lies and draw attention to himself. But now that we know he's the Know It All, his role has fundamentally changed. He is no longer under any threat, as we know he's not mafia. He cannot be indoctrinated. And furthermore, he now has incredible power over the rest of us. He can basically tell us who to vote for, and we'll do it. But I put it to you that Andy has no intention of finishing this game quickly, and instead is going to lead us on a wild goose chase for his own depraved entertainment. The very fact we have now observed who he is means his nature has fundamentally altered and HE CAN NO LONGER BE TRUSTED.

Consider than Inconq has gone to immense trouble putting this together. She even recruited me, a veritable newb, to join. She just wants everyone to have fun by being highly suspicious of one another. Would Andy really let it all just fizzle out, like a particularly disappointing bomb? Or - would he put himself among the pigeons to see how we scatter? Even when we found out after the first ex-communication that he was lying - he could still have his fun with no danger to himself. He'll tell the truth eventually. He just want to watch the world burn in the meantime.

So why did he vote for me, the newb? That also lies in his ability as the Know It All. Consider that he knows all our roles. Now, I am not admitting to having any role here, the following is purely hypothetical - he knows how many interrogators there are. After he was himself interrogated on day one, he would also know that, if there was only one interrogator, they had now used their only move. As he is still, fundamentally, all round good-guy Andy, he will only vote someone out that has already used their power and thus won't miss out on much of the fun. He is devious, but he is also benevolent.

But given he also knows who the mafia are, he still needs to keep an eye on them. The mafia will have been panicking when Andy was revealed as the Know It All, that this kind of mob justice would probably unfold. So just maybe, he contacted the mafia to do a deal. He'll let them live for the first day, but after that all bets are off. All they needed to do was help it along a bit. So who might be the real culprit, you ask? Well:
Lotha wrote:Well, this one's pretty different than the standard mafia.

And yeah, that's a good find. But he can still be converted, right? Which, obviously, makes him a prime target for Miles and Udon.

Edit: oh, my b, he can't be converted. So this is actually ez pz now -- all we gotta do is listen to what Andy says. Who do we excommunicate? :D
"EZ PZ NOW -- ALL WE GOTTA DO IS LISTEN TO WHAT ANDY SAYS."

IN BLACK AND WHITE, GUYS.

NOTE ALSO: The pretence that she doesn't know the roles properly. Nice try.

This is a set-up, plain and simple.

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whoops, double post.
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Man I might vote for myself now
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Huh, I was expecting him to vote Andy. But you know what? That was a really emphatic argument. There’s nothing factual/convincing about it but I really appreciate the enthusiasm so for that reason, I’m siding with Ubik #TeamMafia #RecruitMeBB
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(Also, I don’t want this game to end on day 2)
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Cause everyone else is doing it

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Vote: Lotha

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Hahahahahah well holy crap. Okay lemme see if I can turn this around.
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Use cat pictures please. (If you want my vote)
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We have another interrogation to tend to! Ubik, you have been chosen! Please reveal your role to the rest of the players.
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Ubik wrote:Wrong. Andy is no longer purely Andy, all round good-guy. He is now Schrodinger's Andy (see Fig 1, below).

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Fig 1: In native habitat
:lol :lol :lol

This is amazing, and I've got to hand it to you – you've laid out a fairly compelling argument.
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