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Dang, I can't imagine learning an Alter Bridge song that fast. Also, his guitar is almost exactly the same as mine, colors and all, only mine has both pickups like the bridge pickup on his (I can't remember what that's called).gmetzger wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:30 am Silver Tongue Acoustic: https://youtu.be/RGSEgyxmnOE
Cover of Stay in Open B5: https://youtu.be/KIFFODL0nbc
I pretty sure it’s Drop C#. It’s very faint but if listen at the end of the song when Mark is sliding out of his solo he pulls off to an open string and it’s a low C#.
Did they mention if Mark is using a 6 string or 7 string? I’ve been curious if it was a 7 since they posted a photo of one before the tour began.SchwiizVT12 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:55 am FYI I asked the guys in Munich during the soundcheck Q&A and they confirmed that Myles and Mark are in two different tunings for FOTSS:
Myles is in G# G# C# F# A# D# (basically half-step down with the low E an octave below the A-string)
Mark is in G# Standard, same as In The Deep
Happy learning!
6 String, that’s what he used on In The Deep (G# C# F# B D# G#). That’s an old photo from 3 years ago they just reposted.
Old post that I just saw.davidstvz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:23 pm So Brian never plays in standard then? Does that also apply to the early Creed albums? They did have mostly Drop D songs, but there have always been some in standard. If this is right I’ll need to reconfigure my Indoctrination bass line for Drop D (-1) instead of Standard (-1).
Of course, the Tremonti bass players would possibly have entirely different tuning philosophies. There are a few songs in standard (-4) ... wonder what they do for those.
Thanks in any case!
Brian always plays a 5-string though, so he has extra flexibility. He doesn't always need to rely on open strings so much. He can wing quite a few songs without changing basses whilst the guitars need to change.maximzub wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:24 pmOld post that I just saw.davidstvz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:23 pm So Brian never plays in standard then? Does that also apply to the early Creed albums? They did have mostly Drop D songs, but there have always been some in standard. If this is right I’ll need to reconfigure my Indoctrination bass line for Drop D (-1) instead of Standard (-1).
Of course, the Tremonti bass players would possibly have entirely different tuning philosophies. There are a few songs in standard (-4) ... wonder what they do for those.
Thanks in any case!
That's strange that Brian never plays in standard. How would he play the more difficult songs in standard tunings such as One Day Remains, Ties That Bind, Peace Is Broken, and Clear Horizon?
I can confirm that Brian plays in Drop C# for the songs that the guitarists are tuned to Drop Bb. I saw them live on Saturday and Brian did not change his bass or retune for the first eight songs, while the guitarists were changing between Drop C#, Drop Bb, and Standard Eb.
He did switch basses for Stay (which was between Blackbird and Pawns & Kings, for which he played in Drop C#). Not sure why, because it's completely playable on bass in Drop C# and Myles plays it in Drop C# on guitar.
I also have no idea what's the deal with the Tremonti bassists. My Last Mistake was originally in Standard Eb, while So You're Afraid was in Standard C#. Both are now in Standard D for the guitarists. However, if you watch the video from Graspop 2022 where they played both songs one after the other, Tanner did not switch basses. Furthermore, he seemed to be playing in Drop D for So You're Afraid. What does that mean for My Last Mistake? Was he playing in Drop Eb before they tuned the song down? That doesn't make sense.
My previous post of Brian only having 4 tunings is wrong. He has ~13 tunings. The main idea is the top 3 strings are Leah’s some form of standard, the 4th is standard or dropped d config, and the 5th string is kind of whatever he wants. I’ve got Brian’s tunings on this tuning spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... uRnWQ/editmaximzub wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:24 pmOld post that I just saw.davidstvz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:23 pm So Brian never plays in standard then? Does that also apply to the early Creed albums? They did have mostly Drop D songs, but there have always been some in standard. If this is right I’ll need to reconfigure my Indoctrination bass line for Drop D (-1) instead of Standard (-1).
Of course, the Tremonti bass players would possibly have entirely different tuning philosophies. There are a few songs in standard (-4) ... wonder what they do for those.
Thanks in any case!
That's strange that Brian never plays in standard. How would he play the more difficult songs in standard tunings such as One Day Remains, Ties That Bind, Peace Is Broken, and Clear Horizon?
I can confirm that Brian plays in Drop C# for the songs that the guitarists are tuned to Drop Bb. I saw them live on Saturday and Brian did not change his bass or retune for the first eight songs, while the guitarists were changing between Drop C#, Drop Bb, and Standard Eb.
He did switch basses for Stay (which was between Blackbird and Pawns & Kings, for which he played in Drop C#). Not sure why, because it's completely playable on bass in Drop C# and Myles plays it in Drop C# on guitar.
I also have no idea what's the deal with the Tremonti bassists. My Last Mistake was originally in Standard Eb, while So You're Afraid was in Standard C#. Both are now in Standard D for the guitarists. However, if you watch the video from Graspop 2022 where they played both songs one after the other, Tanner did not switch basses. Furthermore, he seemed to be playing in Drop D for So You're Afraid. What does that mean for My Last Mistake? Was he playing in Drop Eb before they tuned the song down? That doesn't make sense.
Didn't know that about Tanner. So Brian plays Stay in Drop D? I didn't know that. Couldn't he just move everything a fret up and play in Drop C# so he doesn't have to switch basses?gmetzger wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:29 pmMy previous post of Brian only having 4 tunings is wrong. He has ~13 tunings. The main idea is the top 3 strings are Leah’s some form of standard, the 4th is standard or dropped d config, and the 5th string is kind of whatever he wants. I’ve got Brian’s tunings on this tuning spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... uRnWQ/editmaximzub wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:24 pmOld post that I just saw.davidstvz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:23 pm So Brian never plays in standard then? Does that also apply to the early Creed albums? They did have mostly Drop D songs, but there have always been some in standard. If this is right I’ll need to reconfigure my Indoctrination bass line for Drop D (-1) instead of Standard (-1).
Of course, the Tremonti bass players would possibly have entirely different tuning philosophies. There are a few songs in standard (-4) ... wonder what they do for those.
Thanks in any case!
That's strange that Brian never plays in standard. How would he play the more difficult songs in standard tunings such as One Day Remains, Ties That Bind, Peace Is Broken, and Clear Horizon?
I can confirm that Brian plays in Drop C# for the songs that the guitarists are tuned to Drop Bb. I saw them live on Saturday and Brian did not change his bass or retune for the first eight songs, while the guitarists were changing between Drop C#, Drop Bb, and Standard Eb.
He did switch basses for Stay (which was between Blackbird and Pawns & Kings, for which he played in Drop C#). Not sure why, because it's completely playable on bass in Drop C# and Myles plays it in Drop C# on guitar.
I also have no idea what's the deal with the Tremonti bassists. My Last Mistake was originally in Standard Eb, while So You're Afraid was in Standard C#. Both are now in Standard D for the guitarists. However, if you watch the video from Graspop 2022 where they played both songs one after the other, Tanner did not switch basses. Furthermore, he seemed to be playing in Drop D for So You're Afraid. What does that mean for My Last Mistake? Was he playing in Drop Eb before they tuned the song down? That doesn't make sense.
As for Tremonti the bass is usually matched to the guitars and if Eric recorded the parts add a 5th string to it. Live Tanner uses a pitch shifter so he can just roll with one bass the whole night.
That sounds correct, this guy plays it:maximzub wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:37 pm After listening to Last Rites for the first time in a long time, I have changed my opinion on the tuning. I actually think it's in Drop C# after all and not Eb Standard. The reason I say this is because in the verses, I can hear some pull-offs on the open E string, and it goes down to C#.