Another Tremonti Album??? Really ???

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Personnally, I think this band's music sounds off for many reasons, mainly because the concept of metal riffs + cheesy/poppy choruses doesn't work. It never has, and it never will.

This is my biggest criticism of All I Was, the music just doesn't fit together. Mark wanted to use all these heavy riffs, but there's the song, and then there's the riffs, they're two completely things. The riffs are wedged in somewhere for a few seconds, then they're thrown away and you're just listening to a stale textbook Tremonti song. Wish You Well and Decay are very good though.

I'm anticipating the second album, hopefully it's written more organically, and with a bit of luck Fortress has encouraged Mark to branch out a little more.

[Andy92]

I've listened from anything to Miles Davis to Katy Perry, so I'm pretty open to what music I'll try out.

The problem here is that you can't fathom when people like music that you don't, so instead of accepting it you have to tell people how wrong their taste in music is instead.

[AllC392Was]

I love music. I love Tremonti and all of his music. Get over it

[Crumbso]

When your debut album gets around a 9/10 rating on about every rock site, you're doing something right.

As if critics mattered these days...

To be honest with you guys, I had forgotten about this thread.
I'm not surprised by some answers though.
If you guys really think this band is worth your time and money, good for you.
Personnally, I think this band's music sounds off for many reasons, mainly because the concept of metal riffs + cheesy/poppy choruses doesn't work. It never has, and it never will.

Maybe you guys dig it because you're younger than me and Mark Tremonti is your guitar idol.
Maybe you listen to too much modern rock and can't tell the difference between good original rock/metal and generic stuff that's all over radio.
I don't know, but if you guys genuinely think this project is awesome, well, I can't do anything for you guys : we just won't be able to agree on anything.

Get over yourself dude

[austinjhnsn]

When your debut album gets around a 9/10 rating on about every rock site, you're doing something right.

As if critics mattered these days...

To be honest with you guys, I had forgotten about this thread.
I'm not surprised by some answers though.
If you guys really think this band is worth your time and money, good for you.
Personnally, I think this band's music sounds off for many reasons, mainly because the concept of metal riffs + cheesy/poppy choruses doesn't work. It never has, and it never will.

Maybe you guys dig it because you're younger than me and Mark Tremonti is your guitar idol.
Maybe you listen to too much modern rock and can't tell the difference between good original rock/metal and generic stuff that's all over radio.
I don't know, but if you guys genuinely think this project is awesome, well, I can't do anything for you guys : we just won't be able to agree on anything.

Get over yourself dude

Dont degrade us for enjoying something you dont like. Just because you think its shit, doesnt mean it is. This is just as original as the "not so generic metal".

[Timotheus]

This is just as original as the "not so generic metal".

I don't agree with this, but that doesn't really matter. Less original doesn't mean it can't be good.

[AB4Lyfe]

Ok children, play nice.

[anguyen92]

Ok children, play nice.

I think we're starting to get past the point of playing nice, myself included. I will play nice however for this case for a while. The fact of the matter is that most of us like this band, we want this band to make another album, and we're getting it. Us liking "generic" modern hard rock/heavy metal does not really add to this reasoning.

I'll admit it that I primarily listen to those "generic" bands (though I've been expanding listening to other stuff and enjoying other stuff like JT and may get into the Zac Brown Band), but I enjoy it and if I enjoy something, I would want more out of it which is the case for Mark's solo band.

The same would apply for AB, as well, but I know that's not happening. If I complain about the lack of the # of AB shows (compared to the # of Slash's shows) and complain about Myles/Slash releasing another album, so soon, and it's taking away from AB's timeline, at times, people would most likely say "you just have to deal with it and make the best of it." By logic, certain people should do the same. Otherwise, this is going nowhere.

[AB4Lyfe]

I agree with everything above. Fact is, there's only few bands out there that are heavy and still create good melodies. Tremonti's first album, I'll admit, pieced the parts together in a way that didn't make it sound consistent (not a knock on the record, I do love it). However, those were all old parts that Tremonti had in his arsenal. Imagine what he can do with a completely new slate to work with, where progressing a new band is his main focus instead of putting together an album full of old parts.

[PartyRockstarHammerPornstar]

I think people need to chill a bit. Honestly I really just want some kick ass guitar riffs and I'm curious what Van Halen will add to Tremonti. Although, I'm not a huge fan of Mark's voice, it'll still find a way onto my ipod....Bring it tremonti !!!

[JSlade]

The hate for Mark's voice is astounding. If someone can stand the dude singing for Volbeat (he seriously sounds like he has Down Syndrome), then they should be able to handle Mark's voice.

[Outright]

Have you heard Tremonti sing live? It's pretty damn close to studio.

[Kreuger33]

Regarding chtimixeur's feelings towards Tremonti, his band-mates and All I Was - don't take the bait, guys and girls. This guy loves Scott Stapp's newest album. So, yeah...

You're an imbecile. I loved the Tremonti record and quite enjoy Scott's new album too. It's called variety and it's the spice of life.

[AllC392Was]

I love Tremonti's voice. I think him and his band mates are very talented and I enjoy there music

[Dan Dando]

You're an imbecile. I loved the Tremonti record and quite enjoy Scott's new album too. It's called variety and it's the spice of life.

Cheers for the imbecile remark - real mature.

I wasn't so much as knocking people who like Scott's new album - I was knocking someone who likes the one and not the other, despite the fact that All I Was is a significantly superior record to Proof of Life (not that All I Was is that great, it's just Proof of Life is that naff) - So if anything I was knocking the lack of variety, not variety itself. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion... but if someone believes that Proof of Life is the better record, then I'm entitled to show no respect to that opinion.

Wind your neck in, mate. But then you're the fellow who came out with this gem not too long ago... "You can all take your opinions and shove it. Cause that's all they are, opinions." - so I won't hold my breath.

[Andy92]

Someone could hold the opinion that both of those albums suck. And that's okay too. Doesn't really matter what people think about music. Shouldn't affect how you listen to stuff.

[Kreuger33]

It's a completely different story to be of the opinion that you don't like it. But it comes across with the implication that you must be an idiot to like Proof of Life. And so I took that offensively. Otherwise, I don't care if you don't like it, or the Tremonti records.

[Dan Dando]

It's a completely different story to be of the opinion that you don't like it. But it comes across with the implication that you must be an idiot to like Proof of Life. And so I took that offensively. Otherwise, I don't care if you don't like it, or the Tremonti records.

Well I apologise, mate.

The only implication in my original post was that if someone thinks Tremonti's record was generic and cheesy, and at the same time that same someone likes Scott Stapp's new album, then that's obviously absolutely bonkers, you know? It's like if I went on the Scott Stapp thread and called Proof of Life cheesy and generic, and then I went and listened to a Nicki Minaj album, or something.

Of course, everyone is allowed to like whatever they like... but I think everyone should still try to have some perspective about what they like. So if someone likes Proof of Life then I'm not going to be an asshole to them despite the fact that I don't think much of it. But if someone likes Proof of Life and then calls Tremonti's album generic and cheesy - then I'll show no respect to that opinion. If you were offended by that then please go back and read Chtimixeur's slightly condescending post and then maybe you'll understand why I may have channelled a bit of condescension too in return.

No one is an idiot for liking what they like. I never said those words. If you like Proof of Life, then that's cool, man.

[chtimixeur]

despite the fact that All I Was is a significantly superior record to Proof of Life (not that All I Was is that great, it's just Proof of Life is that naff)

At least, Proof of Life doesn't sound like a bunch of ideas pasted together. You know, it sounds like 10 actual songs (the only exception being Break out, which doesn't flow well from verse to chorus). Whether you like them or not is another story, but as far as I'm concerned, I'll keep saying All I Was is by far Mark's lowest point in his career. It just sucks, plain and simple.

[Dan Dando]

despite the fact that All I Was is a significantly superior record to Proof of Life (not that All I Was is that great, it's just Proof of Life is that naff)

At least, Proof of Life doesn't sound like a bunch of ideas pasted together. You know, it sounds like 10 actual songs (the only exception being Break out, which doesn't flow well from verse to chorus). Whether you like them or not is another story, but as far as I'm concerned, I'll keep saying All I Was is by far Mark's lowest point in his career. It just sucks, plain and simple.

Well I'd take a bunch of ideas pasted together.. over.. what Scott came up with any day of the week. Tremonti's album featured an assortment of ideas that didn't fit into the musicality of Alter Bridge and Creed... and instead of leaving them lying around he took them and made a record out of them. He was never going to reinvent the wheel with All I Was... but his follow-up album will be all the better for the experience of making that album and seeing what worked and what didn't work.

Where as with Proof of Life - 15 credited songwriters and 8 years since The Great Divide and THAT is the best Scott could come up with?!

Don't get me wrong - I take no delight in criticising Scott's record. In fact, now his contractual obligation with Wind Up is fulfilled I hope he makes his next record elsewhere. You can feel Wind Up's guiding hand on Proof of Life and it's not a positive influence. I mean, Scott claims that it's his most personal record yet he needed that much help to get it done? That's snake-oil.