Proof of Life first week sales predictions

[nagpo]

I thought the lyric video WAS the music video.

[AHart96]

Hahahahahahaha Proof of Life is gonna sell more than Fortress my ass. And I'm not a Stapp hater, I love the guy and wish him success, personally I'd like to see another Creed album, but that was an idiotic/ignorant statement

[julio]

They actually have a legit music video with a storyline. Not just a performance video.

[creed009]

Hahahahahahaha Proof of Life is gonna sell more than Fortress my ass. And I'm not a Stapp hater, I love the guy and wish him success, personally I'd like to see another Creed album, but that was an idiotic/ignorant statement

It seems like it still remains to be seen whether it will sell more albums overall. Proof of Life has more room to grow on the charts due to the Top 40 type songs that will be released and could do well on the radio. I'm not sure if Austin was referring to the 1st week sales or the overall sales.

[creed009]

They actually have a legit music video with a storyline. Not just a performance video.

Yeah, and it was stupid not to release that before the album came out, or at least on the same day. I think that would've helped album sales quite a bit.

[AB23]

If it isn't close to the mark thatr fortress had on week 1, I really doubt it'll be close even when the singles are released. I definitely don't think a video will help either. Maybe 10 years ago, but not now. When someone wants to watch a music video now, usually they have to specifically search for it somewhere, and if they don't know of the video in the first place then I don't think that will help things much.

But I like performance videos. Sometimes music videos with a story get a little cheesy. With Broken Wings no one had any fucking clue what was going on. And if you watch most of Shinedown's music videos, they are so cheesy it makes you wanna turn off the video completely. Music videos like watch over you are perfect I think. SImple, cheap, showcase the band, boom. Lyrics are interpreted differently by everyone depending on how it relates to them. So pushing a story on someone (unless of course the song is specifically about a certain someone) might make them think something of the song that they wouldn't if they had it their own way

[JaredWard]

I like performance videos if they're creative and well shot. The last few AB videos have been the same thing pretty much and I'm happy Scott is getting the storyline treatment.. it suits the song.

[creed009]

If it isn't close to the mark thatr fortress had on week 1, I really doubt it'll be close even when the singles are released.

It just depends on how well the singles do. If they actually become bit hits, then obviously the album will sell really well.

When someone wants to watch a music video now, usually they have to specifically search for it somewhere, and if they don't know of the video in the first place then I don't think that will help things much.

Well, it will show up on the side of the page when people are watching music videos that are similar to it. It wouldn't suprise me if it showed up on the side of the page when people watch Alter Bridge's new video.

[AB23]

You can make that point about the singles, but I simply don't see him having any songs that do better than addicted to pain in the charts. And if that's the case, how is he supposed to sell more than fortress or even close to it? I don't think its gonna do bad, I just think that it probably isn't his best work and solo records don't sell very well (unless its a legend). Especially selling christian songs.

My favorite christian singer is Matthew West (99% of you guys probably have never heard of him). He's one of the more popular christian solo artists. His best album sold a little over 10000 in its first week. It's just not a huge fanbase.

[chtimixeur]

Weathered : 887,000 copies in its first week.
The Great Divide : 94.000 copies in its first week => basically 10% of Weathered's sales
Proof of Life : 8.600 copies in its first week => 1% of Weathered's sales

His career is in the toilet.
It's time for him to think about doing something else with his life.
Losing 99% of your fans in 10 years must feel horrible, but at least, now he knows no one cares about him anymore.

[GazEd]

Noone buys CDs anymore.

[Decay]

Yeah, 'cause that's not cool anymore.

[GazEd]

To be honest I really thought of getting this album on a CD.

Then I stopped thinking about it.

[Finaldecision]

Weathered : 887,000 copies in its first week.
The Great Divide : 94.000 copies in its first week => basically 10% of Weathered's sales
Proof of Life : 8.600 copies in its first week => 1% of Weathered's sales

His career is in the toilet.
It's time for him to think about doing something else with his life.
Losing 99% of your fans in 10 years must feel horrible, but at least, now he knows no one cares about him anymore.

You really can't calculate it that way, cause people might not be aware of the CD or either just don't buy it. CDs don't sell like 2001 or even 2005 anymore. You can't compare that.

Furthermore he still has nearly 90.000 followers on Twitter alone, so this basically qualifies these numbers. He obviously lost some fans over the years, but they didn't shrink to 1% of the Creed days.

[chtimixeur]

@Finaldecision : yes, I can compare. CD's can still sell, it just depends on the artist you're looking at. Just look at Eminem. He was huge in 2000 and sold 1.7 million albums in his first week. He was the biggest thing in rap, whereas Creed was the biggest thing in hard rock.
13 years later, he's still selling 800.000 albums in his first week. Basically, he only lost half of his fanbase, when Stapp lost 99% of his.

[Finaldecision]

@Finaldecision : yes, I can compare. CD's can still sell, it just depends on the artist you're looking at. Just look at Eminem. He was huge in 2000 and sold 1.7 million albums in his first week. He was the biggest thing in rap, whereas Creed was the biggest thing in hard rock.
13 years later, he's still selling 800.000 albums in his first week. Basically, he only lost half of his fanbase, when Stapp lost 99% of his.

1. Creed fans ≠ Stapp fans , which means there's just a partial overlap between these two groups. Full Circle went pretty decent in its first week compared to Proof Of Life.

2. It does not just depend on the artist. Of course there are a few that still sell millions of CDs, but those are mainly exceptions. Most artists struggle with CD sales. The whole industry struggles, last year they even celebrated the fact that CD sales didn't go down as severely as the year before!

Also for Eminem: You cannot say he lost half his fan base. Many fans still buy downloads, get his music illegally or attend his concerts. That shows that there is a bigger fan base than just the 800.000 people who bought his album in the first week.
The same goes for Scott Stapp I guess.

[creed009]

He at least beat Stryper in sales. It just seems like rock artists don't sell very well anymore. It takes someone like Eminem to sell a ridiculous amount of albums.

[AB23]

Eminem is sorta a legend in his own right though. I think a lot of people, including my friends, buy his album just to collect for the future. They don't even unwrap it. I see your point though. Stapp's fanbase has dwindled immensely in a decade. Much more than the usual artist. I think its to be expected though with the break up and being in the news for all the wrong reasons and what not. Plus he's trying to sing in a small fanbase of Christian rock listeners. Like I said before, one of the more well known Christian Rock musicians, Matthew West, only sold 10,200 on his best selling album.

[julio]

#35 with 9.4k, on Billboard/Soundscan (interestingly an order of magnitude lower than The Great Divide)

http://keelyskorner.com/2013/11/13/firs ... rball-112/

[Them Bones]

Honestly, thats not bad considering where Stapp stands at the moment and given that people aren't buying music anymore. I predicted it would be less than 10000 based on how it all is for Stapp. What would be more important is how many people own a copy(legal or illegal) of the album and how many of them would turn up for his shows cuz thats where he will be making money.