Pawns & Kings Europe Tour 2022 with Halestorm and Mammoth WVH

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Does anyone know if and when Myles started using a teleprompter? That may also partially explain the lack of movement on the stage compared to eras past. And I can't imagine he's not using one these days given how many songs he has to perform between all of his various projects. (I'm in my mid 30s embarking on a musical / songwriting career and I often can't remember my own lyrics to save my life lmao - and I only have a couple dozen songs at most lmao.)

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I feel like it was there for the RAH show, and he uses it more for cues than anything so it doesn't tie him to that spot full time. But yeah, between 3 different acts spanning almost 20 years, there are a lot of words out there.
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gbruin wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 3:14 pm I feel like it was there for the RAH show, and he uses it more for cues than anything so it doesn't tie him to that spot full time. But yeah, between 3 different acts spanning almost 20 years, there are a lot of words out there.
And some people have better memories than others. I personally can remember the lyrics to about 150 songs (maybe more, maybe less, I haven't ever counted).

I agree with the fact that it's probably only for cues because he still messes up lyrics live. The very first song of the very first show of the tour, he sang "say that I was wrong" twice instead of "prove I still belong" in Silver Tongue.
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Berlin concert was amazing. 6 songs from One Day Remains I think, only 2 from P&K (Silver Tongue and title song). I had been worried about Myles' performance before because if what I read and have seen from the tour videos, but tonight he was awesome. They did a lot of parts in the songs where only the crowd sang (especially the ODR songs and Before Tomorrow Comes and Rise Today) which might have had a positive effect on myles. They also played BID wirh Mark on vocals instead of Waters Rising.
With Halestorm and Mammoth being fantastic support, this might have been the coolest AB concert I've been to (I've seen them about 6 or 7 times) and I am not even a huge ODR fan.
I was only a bit disappointed to not hear This is War.

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Okay, now that I've seen enough setlists to get the general idea of what they're going for, here's my realistic dream setlist for the show I'm going to. This might change if they start doing something wildly different for the US tour.

1. Silver Tongue
2. Addicted To Pain
3. Come To Life
4. This Is War
5. Broken Wings
6. Isolation
7. Native Son
8. Brand New Start
9. Burn It Down
10. Pawns & Kings
11. Metalingus
12. Watch Over You
13. Blackbird
14. Rise Today
15. Cry Of Achilles

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16. Slip To The Void
17. Open Your Eyes

The only song on here that they haven't played so far is Come To Life. I put it there because I don't really like either song in the #3 spot, and I know this song once was one of their staples. Plus, it was on Mark's tuning sheet that got posted on social media recently. This seems like a logical spot for it and I hope they start playing it on this tour soon.

#5, #8, and #16 may change if they start doing some more deep cuts/new songs in those spots.
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I'd love to hear Burn It Down live. I don't think they've ever played it in all the times I've seen them. Hoping This Is War comes back around and maybe one more song from P&K.
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If they're gonna play a song from Walk The Sky they should play Pay No Mind
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Good stuff! Mark sounded a little off on the opening but pulled it back together nicely. When he stepped it up in the chorus it fit his voice well. Myles' solo was elegant and had nice feeling to it.
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Love how much fun it seemed as though Myles was having playing that…don’t often see that these days.
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Schulzy wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 8:53 pm Good stuff! Mark sounded a little off on the opening but pulled it back together nicely. When he stepped it up in the chorus it fit his voice well. Myles' solo was elegant and had nice feeling to it.
Myles solo is great.... but the original Mark solo is still one of my top 5 AB solos. Gives me chills, especially the ending phrases, so I miss hearing it. Still, really cool to see it back in the set and a nice switch-up to have Mark singing it. Bring back more ODR I say! Shed My Skin or Down to My Last always slayed live.
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Glad to see Slip To The Void has disappeared from the encore (and the setlist) for the last couple of shows. Too stoppy starty to be a bona fide classic imo. Hopefully GODGB and BTC both stay for good for the next month....

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I’ll be honest. I really don’t like the setlist at all anymore. It started amazingly, but all the revisions they’ve made have negatively impacted the setlist for me. The removal of Slip to the Void pretty much killed my interest in seeing this tour. Before Tomorrow Comes should never have replaced The Other Side and only playing 3 songs off of the new album when they’re all such great tunes is a massive bummer.
They really need to step up their game when they hit the US or the dream of hitting 2 or 3 shows on the Australian tour will turn into “eh, maybe I’ll go if they come to Perth?”

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I would be so happy listening Shed My Skin live :')

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I did not see that one coming!

They also brought it back to the original key, which I think sounds better.
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Amazing to see. :peace
They seem to have a newfound appreciation for One Day Remains on this tour, which is great since they've often repeated Blackbird was kind of the album where they found their true sound.
Hopefully, they'll play Find the Real soon!

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chtimixeur wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:54 am Amazing to see. :peace
They seem to have a newfound appreciation for One Day Remains on this tour, which is great since they've often repeated Blackbird was kind of the album where they found their true sound.
Hopefully, they'll play Find the Real soon!
I'm glad they appreciate that album, but I wouldn't take more songs from it at the cost of Watch Over You being dropped.
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Whitebird wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 1:57 am
:dance I never thought I'd see the day. Great to see that back. Now, just give us Fable, Season of Promise of Last Man Standing!
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Question to all people who went to AB concerts before: I will be visiting the concert in Cologne on Wednesday. Doors are at 6.30 pm. When do you think WVH will play their set? I'm fairly new to the concert-visiting game so I don't really know how much space there is between open doors and the first supporting act.

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